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RE: Ed Noonan of California AIP Throws Hissy Fit
The quote below is from the CP's Gary Odom on Third Party Watch
AS USUAL, ED NOONAN HAS GOT IT ALL WRONG!
1. Ed Noonan is no longer the state Chairman of the American Independent Party. The new chairman of the California state central committee is Jim King of Los Angeles. He was elected at the State Central Committee yesterday in Los Angeles which followed the state convention, which was held Saturday at the same location.
2. Of course, we acknowledged Noonan as the State chairman (the biggest mistake our party made in its 40 year history)—he is so insecure. His name and contact info was posted on the CP contact during the period of his term. Unfortunately, the fact that he was elected chairman in September became a two year nightmare for the AIP.
3. In the fall of 2006 while Noonan was running for Governor, Jim Gilchrist, at the time an AIP member (who has always had and independent streak and has shown himself to be a bit of a loose cannon) endorsed a candidate from another party for Governor. [Not something that was really very smart because that SAME DAY that he had called Bill Shearer soliciting his aid to run for the Constitution Party Presidential nomination] Anyway, Noonan went ballistic (and this may be when he really became unhinged) and called Gilchrist and was very abusive and as a result Gilchrist—the AIP’s most prominant public figure left the party. Even Noonan’s crony Mark Seidenberg, has admitted that to me.
4. Noonan’s first attempt at communication with the AIP membership was a proposed letter that he sent to Nancy Shearer with a request that it be sent out. The letter included a naked picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger and was addressed to “Dear residents of Sodom and Gomorrah”. He then proceeded to tear into the party memberhship for not working harder for his dismal Governor’s campaign. Needless to say, that letter never saw the light of day—but was preserved as evidence.
5. Noonan next—over everyone’s objection—appointed a person who was under investigation for hate crimes by the San Diego District Attorney’s office and who had clearly lied to the court about having AIP information on his computer (as a purported reason to get his computers back—which had been taken). The man had never been actively involved in the AIP before and his “group of supporters” were biker club.
6. Next Noonan got talked into supporting somebody’s hare-brained scheme to divide California into “Old California” (counties that had voted Democrat) and “New California” (counties that voted Republican). There was not even contiguous geographic boundaries to these proposed new states. (I don’t really think I need to go further to explain the ridiculous and embarrassing nature of this proposal) I sent Ed a personal and private email describing this proposal as a “non-starter” and urging him to abandon this idea. (Certainly, I acknowledged him as Chairman there) Noonan’s response was to attack me on his “Yahoo chat room.” As far as I know California is still just one state so I don’t think his crusade on that issue went very far.
7. By the way, Noonan ran the party activities strictly through his yahoo chat room—one of the silliest and most counter productive ideas I have encountered in 37 years in politics.
8. Noonan—our state chairman—-was quoted in a major California newspaper saying that our registration base—the foundation of our ballot qualification—was a mistake in 99% of the cases. Even if that were true (and it is not) it surely is not something that the state chairman ought to be telling the media.
9. In the summer of ‘07 his great idea for fundraising was to invite Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Barack Obama and the rest of the major (and minor) party candidates to participate in a debate along with AIP/CP candidates in an AIP sponsored meeting in Sacramento. He actually sent invitations to the other party’s state chairmen! Need I say more?
10. After I came to California last year (my home state and the state where I was registered to vote at the time) and met with AIP leaders about what to do about Noonan’s antics—he circulated a proposed motion which he claimed he was going to bring at the Council Bluff’s National Committee meeting to “ban” me from the Constitution Party for 20 years! Well, I showed in Council Bluffs and he didn’t. Not much courage for a gentleman who had accused me of “hiding behind” Nancy Shearer’s skirt.
11. More recently his great crusade on his chat rooms was another crack-pot scheme to organize what could only be called a “posse” to go and effect a citizen’s arrest on the Mayor of San Francisco.
(THIS IS A VERY PARTIAL LIST ON OUR EX- STATE CHAIRMAN’S NONSENSE)
Ed Noonan has done nothing but bring scorn and ridicule on the American Independent Party—the party to which I have served since 1971.
Everybody makes mistakes—Lord knows I have (and some have been documented here) and those mistakes made me a much more humble person—but in Noonan’s case it is a matter of stupidity compounded by arrogance compounded by a nasty sneering attidtude compounded by rude behavior.
Yes, we WAS our State Chairman and possibly the greatest embarrassment the party has suffered in 40 years.
The so-called “facts” he has listed in his two parts are,as usual,filled with mistakes and an astonishing lack of understanding of the election laws and procedures in California.
There has been NO disaffiliation by the California AIP from the Constitution Party. On the contrary, there was just this weekend a state convention and state central committee legitimately called pursuant to the bylaws of the party, with 30 days notice and attended by leaders of the party from all over the state. This will become readily apparent to all.
[The purported “meeting” by which the disaffiliation was supposed to have taken place was an online “meeting” to which the members of the prior State Central Committee ( =of which it was purported to have been a meeting) received no notice. Ed Noonan, Mark Seidenberg and Markam Robinson are making a laughable attempt to hijack the AIP—though at the moment is a bit of a pain in the neck from a PR point of view]
The California American Independent Party enthusiastically reaffiliated with the Constitution Party and nominated Chuck Baldwin as the AIP nominee in California.
http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/06/30/ca...ent-671401
Ray
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RE: Ed Noonan of California AIP Throws Hissy Fit
California AIP State Convention Chooses Electors Pledged to Baldwin
June 30th, 2008
On June 28-29, the American Independent Party held its state convention in Los Angeles. The convention chose Ed King for state chair, and nominated a slate of presidential electors pledged to Chuck Baldwin for president. Approximately 35 delegates attended. Outgoing state chair Ed Noonan did not attend. Outgoing vice-chair Mark Seidenberg did appear at the convention hotel, but he did not enter the convention hall. Noonan and Seidenberg are opposed to Baldwin’s nomination, and support Alan Keyes.
The convention had been called by 9 state officers of the party, more than a month before the convention itself. The officers had acted when it appeared that Noonan would not be calling a state convention this year. The party hired a professional parliamentarian to help with the meeting.
Noonan has called an alternate state convention for July 5-6 in Sacramento.
http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/06/30/...o-baldwin/
“Of two evils, choose neither”..... Charles H. Spurgeon
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RE: Ed Noonan of California AIP Throws Hissy Fit
Okay, but this still does NOT answer my question: Will Californians have the opportunity to vote for Chuck Baldwin?
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RE: Ed Noonan of California AIP Throws Hissy Fit
All I can say is that if A. Keyes was the CP candidate for pres. I would not be supporting the CP. I remember him from the Republican debates this election season, and all I remember is him ranting and sounding like a loonitic.
It is very unfortunate that this somewhat negative PR is out there however, I have never heard of Third Party Watch. This Noonan dude and his sidekicks are very destructive. The CP has more class than what they are displaying. Is he gone? Is the CP still represented in Calif. and as someone asked above, will Chuck Baldwin's name still be on the ballot in Nov.?
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RE: Ed Noonan of California AIP Throws Hissy Fit
The AIP is ballot qualified. The article above states that the legitimate leaders of the AIP nominated Baldwin as their Presidential candidate. So if that's the case, then YES, Baldwin will be on in California and Californians will be able to vote for Chuck.
Ray
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RE: Ed Noonan of California AIP Throws Hissy Fit
Either Baldwin will be on the ballot (90 chance) ornoone will. Keyes wont.
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