Cowards.... they are the ones that will cry the loudest in the FEMA Camps.

Chuck Baldwin cannot win. I hate to admit it and said I will support Chuck until it is over. “It ain’t over ‘till its over.” Since McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, it is over. Almost everybody who Chuck needs to win has gone over to support McCain/Palin.

However, I have an idea that will possibly get some EXPOSURE for Chuck Baldwin and the Constitution Party for the future. Chuck said he would support Ron Paul if he wins the nomination. Ron Paul is not going to win the nomination. Therefore Chuck should go to the Republican Convention, have a press conference (or whatever is necessary to get some media coverage) and announce that “Chuck Baldwin and the Constitution Party are going to support John McCain and Sarah Palin”.

Maybe the announcement will break that glass window that is keeping the Constitution Party out of the public eye. I hate to stoop to this level, but I believe it is over for Chuck this year. Some exposure for the Constitution Party may set us up a little for the future. Don’t be hard heads. Chuck can’t win this year.

The Libertarian Party, the Green Party and some others at least are known to the public. The Constitution Party is not. This announcement may get us out there at any rate like they are.

Impala-

Blasphemy! Buck up man, get a grip and have some long term vision. This is a party movement that is for the coming century. It is about our progeny and future.

We will not stoop to stunts, or ridiculous endorsements for short term exposure. Cheap exposure is not what we need. We need to influence and touch souls with a philosophy of God Breathed Constitutional Truth!

The issue is not one of a "marketing dilemma", or access. It is about building a wall of people who will not flinch, run or embrace defeat no matter how tough the battle looks, or how long it will take.

Another word for this is CHARACTER. And without character we are nothing.

Bill Lussenheide
http://www.FaithFamilyFreedoms.blogspot.com

Live Free or Die. Chuck Baldwin 2008.

Impala

They are pandering to us. Would they do that if they were not worried about the impact we could have on the election. Don't fall for one of the cheapest and easiest tricks in the book.

Did you really think Baldwin was going to win? That is not why a third-party runs a presidential candidate. I would rather have 400,000 votes for Baldwin and a handfull of state legislators than 5,000,000 and none. It is the state legislators that determine the ballot access laws. A third party runs a presidential candidate not to win but to gain members, to gain attention, to make future ballot access easier and to recruit future candidates for office. It's to grow the party and keep hope alive. This is the long haul and you'd best be prepared for it if you're serious about defending liberty!

That was the wake-up call. Here's something to look forward to.

A third party doen't need to win in order to win. All it takes is to become strong enough to effect elections. In 1912 the Socialist party gained 6% of the vote and came within a few hundred votes of taking Connecticut. The Democrats won that year only because the opposition was divided. Each election after that, the Dems adopted more and more of the Socialist party platform til by 1932 their platform was nearly identical to the Socialist Platform of 1912. The Democrat party became the Socialist Party.

O.W.

This post was last modified: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:49 AM by Old Whig.

Impala

Think of a major party as an amoeba. When a minor party begins to cause it pain, it attempts to absorb that minor party. At first it does so by pandering, but if the minor party refuses to be digested in that fashion, the major party, in fear of losing will gradually adopt more and more of the minor party's positions.

Look at the Socialist Party's 1912 platform and any Democrat Party Platform after 1932 and tell me who absorbed who?

O.W.

Sorry about the third post. I just forgot to emphasize that it is vital that we work as hard as we can to get as many votes as possible for Chuck Baldwin THIS year. We may not have as much time as we wish.

O.W.

I was Huckabee supporter. I'm not voting for McCain/Palin. My husband and I decided to vote for Baldwin this Nov. I posted an article there, I forgot the title,"Can two walk together",huck's army deleted it. Huckabee supporters don't want to hear any negative comments on Palin.

O.W.
Time will tell if we've had a new birth of True Patriots of if it is just a new Hatch of Sunshine Patriots. It is obvious to me some have had a lapse of apathy and one only has to visit some of the forums to note the drop in participation. Some will wake up and realize that its only sticktoitiveness that will build a party or organization. A more popular term for citizens being tossed to and fro is a Flip-Flopper! No one likes being called that but too many often comply when the road gets rough.

On another note, as much as I like and support Ron Paul he has done little to promote Real Change except raise the awareness of the evils of our government and prove the GOP can't be won by a True Patriot!. As many time as its been tried, e.g. the Barry Goldwater and Regan Years, the GOP has always remained on course to assume the recent position of the DNC while they march farther to the left and the socializing of America.
IMHO, looking back at history as many times as it has been attempted to affect change in the GOP it has been stomped out like a minor minor grass fire. Fighting in amongst the ranks of the GOP will only end in frustration and defeat, while the same effort behind building a third party will do more to get the "Two Big Box" parties attention due to their extreme fear of loosing patronage and members.

I am putting out a call to all who were awakened by True Patriot's like Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin to not waste your efforts and to not return to your apathy, instead help the Constitution Party build its recognition and membership, Mr Clell Drumheller, Southern States Area Chairman for the Constitution Party (clelldrumheller@gmail.com) and many CP members and Patriot's like myself encourage you to continue your support of Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin and become members of your State Constitution Party.
You can find your state contact information at the link below by clicking on your state of residence:
http://www.constitutionparty.com/view_states.php

As a True Patriot of America Join me in helping tp building the Constitution Party in North Carolina and we WILL make a CHANGE!

This post was last modified: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:09 AM by Jim Randleman.

Does anybody know what happened in the court case to put the Constitution Party/Chuck Baldwin on the ballot in Pennsylvania?