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Thursday, June 19, 2008
Juan McCain and Illinois Hispanics
by Rosanna Pulido
I was one of the 150 people at the Drake Hotel in Downtown Chicago Wednesday night who came to hear John McCain speak to Illinois Hispanics.
Personally, as an Original Minuteman who attended the Historic Minuteman Border Watch in 2005 on the Arizona/ Mexico border, and returning 2 more times for a tour of duty along our southern Border, I was especially looking forward to what John Mc Cain would say about illegal immigration.
This was a NO MEDIA ALLOWED EVENT! That is why I am reporting back to you, all of you folks who have fought so hard with your phone calls to Washington D.C. last summer, shutting down the Washington DC switch board and defeating the AMNESTY BILL. I am reporting back to you those of you who work tirelessly in your local cities and towns trying to get some public elected official to care and enforce the rule of law.
I was told by my friend and fellow Hispanic Marianne Davies who is on the board of "You Don't Speak for Me" that John Mc Cain has been going across the country having "PRIVATE" meetings with Hispanics.
Although the invitation said we would be able to ask questions, that "question " time with John Mc Cain never happened. That was OK with me, I never had the intention of asking a question, I knew exactly the kind of open borders crowd I was with.
John Mc Cain's favorite mantras of the evening was Comprehensive Immigration Reform. But he started out first of all saying if he is gonna win the Presidential election he will need the support of the Latino community.
He said " My state has been enriched by the Hispanic culture in Arizona."
Then John MC Cain asked a question "Did you know this? I bet some of you did not know that Spanish was spoken in Arizona before English" ...Loud cheers from the audience. (OK John Mc Cain What is your AZATLAN POINT?)
Then he said " I want to have some straight talk about our relationship with Mexico, our closest neighbor and dearest friend" He talked about the Mexican President fighting the drug cartels.
Then John Mc Cain said the exact thing I came to hear, he said "I was proud to work for Comprehensive Immigration Reform ( another word for Amnesty) and If I am elected President I assure you that in 2009 I will ask Congress to pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform." (The crowd goes wild) "It is a Federal Responsibility" he said and continued " we also need a temporary guest worker program"
He then told a story about a day laborer who got picked up this morning, worked all day and then never got paid...We have no Federal Policy, we cannot allow this to happen, he said, He repeated I assure you that I will work for Comprehensive Immigration Reform. (AMNESTY)
John McCain talked about a debate he was in about enforcing the law and he says that the "other side had a lot of Rhetoric "you know what I am talking about!" he said.
I guess the most telling event of the evening was a certain person who was in the room. From my own account he is the Godfather of the massive illegal alien movement in Illinois. He is a Democrat and part of the HDO, Martin Sandoval - serves on a Mexican government advisory council. In fact, you can see his name on this list of their advisors:
http://www.ime.gob.mx/ccime/directorios/..._06_09.htm
Exactly which country is he representing at this rally for John Mc Cain?
Martin Sandoval, Illinois senator, wants to represent Mexicans too. Martin Sandoval is a state Senator from Illinois. He's also running for a seat on Mexico's "Institute for Mexicans Abroad" advisory council: Sandoval would be the first elected official in the U.S. to serve on the advisory council. That raises the peculiar prospect of the Cicero Democrat offering policy advice in an official capacity to Mexican Cabinet members while creating laws in Illinois...
Sandoval said his participation is especially logical because a large share of his constituents were born in Mexico. More than 42 percent of Sandoval's Senate district is foreign-born, the second-highest rate in the state...
Illinois State Senator also stated at the Latino Caucus at the Rosemont Convention Center a couple of years ago "we need to start a revolution through the Catholic Church" and thats exactly what we see happening on behalf of the illegal alien population.
NOW we see what kind of folks are interested in getting John Mc Cain in office.
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Thanks for all that you do, Rosanna, and for keeping us informed about the dangerous position we are in in this country with our legislators and presidential candidates working against our interests.
Posted by: Margaret | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Insofar as the Minutemen protect the borders, I laud their efforts; but insofar as they may expand their agenda to include tracking down families and their kids in order to toss them over a border fence I cannot abide.
Their illegality was encouraged by past administrations. The failure to enforce existing laws is a *greater crime* than the act of crossing an open border for familial or economic reasons. Enforce the law? Yes, but act after the fashion which seems to be proposed by Pulido and you will compound the image of "selfish Republicans, with a DON'T LIVE AND LET LIVE agenda" with the added consequence that we will continue to lose elections.
I strongly support efforts to purge this country of illegal criminal elements; I support enforcing laws and not just passing laws that sweeten the bitter tasting prejudices which, if they do not exist in fact, can be made to APPEAR to exist with devastating electoral consequences. If we allow this, the central Republican ideals of independence of government and a free economy will be sacrificed to the "blood hounds" embittered by executive and legislative neglect and driven by forces I find unspeakable in a free country.
Hispanics in the U.S. are potentially a very powerful force for those ideas Republicans have traditionally valued. To precipitously discourage the support they offer (currently around 38%) is to abort a viable living being, unjustly, in my opinion.
Of course, my imputation of motives and objectives will be challenged, but I know "political pornography" when we see it, notwithstanding the inability to persuade the unpersuadable.
Posted by: Bayne | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 01:27 PM
Compare this column to the "Demographic Winter" column.
We face a "tradeoff". For the upside of a policy there is also a possible downside. For every buyer a seller, yada, yada.
Either we are for free market capitalism and against government control of who can work where and whom an employer can employ, or we aren't.
Either we are for the central planning of our population growth or we aren't.
Either we are for a couple choosing when and how many children to have without regard to government bribes and penalties, or we aren't.
Posted by: spintreebob | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 01:39 PM
Bob, I think this issue does relate to the point I made regarding "Demographic Winter." I was NOT in any way trying to justify illegal immigration in my remarks.
But for the reasons cited in that column, plus some of those raised by "Baine," perhaps we ought to consider making LEGAL immigration easier in addition to removing economic and other incentives for illegal immigration (e.g. by penalizing employers who hire illegals, etc).
Whatever immigration policy we have, the important thing is that it be workable and enforceable. A (dare I say) liberal policy that's respected and consistently enforced is preferable to a strict policy on paper that's enforced only when it's convienient.
Posted by: Bookworm | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 02:28 PM
Spintreebob
The presence of illegal aliens does five injuries to the concept of interclass mobility necessary for the citizens of this republic.
First, it decreases the market clearing wage for the jobs they take. These jobs would be available to our own citizens and legal aliens at a higher wage rate. The latter would be passed through to end purchaser of goods and services.
Second, it raises the cost of government -- the latter having to provide additional social serices of the last resort.
Third, it affects prosperity through the export of cash wages directly to the home country, affecting the was through of the money supply.
Fourrth, it keeps our own people on the welfare rolls burdening the public.
Fifth, it creates enclaves of special interests supported by their legal counterparts in the name of solidarity. In so doing it slows the assimilation of our new legal immigrants into American society.
Posted by: Pete Speer | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 02:33 PM
Pete, those are great points, and I know a sixth reason, crime. During a radio interview, I heard Rosanna say that, since Sept. 11, 2001, illegal aliens have killed an average of 23 Americans, per day. If the U.S. had no illegal aliens, our crime rate would be much lower.
Posted by: Phil Collins | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Pete,
I won't reply point for point at this time. We need to separate out the consequences imposed by the law itself and the consequences imposed by the free market.
If we were to pass a law that makes legal those illegals who work and are not criminals or on welfare, in effect selective amnesty, then half (but not all) of the negatives you list, would disappear.
It's like saying prohibition encouraged organized crime. When prohibition was repealed (amnesty), it removed some but not all of the problems.
Reagan's 1986 amnesty kicked in at the same time as Reaganomics created a long term boom in the economy. Early in the Clinton administration his treasury secretary destroyed the Mexican economy.
Those 3 events led to the increase in Mexican immigration (legal and illegal). Those immigrants (legal and illegal) were creating the demand for housing that was the demand in the housing boom. Unertainty over immigration arose since 2004 and caused the demand for increased housing to disappear. That decline in housing demand was a proximate cause of the burst in the housing bubble. (Of course, it was a bubble as speculators were buying long "on margin" and hoping to "flip" their investment, a new version of day trading. Those speculators did not see that increasing demand was driving the housing market and the lack of that demand would burst the bubble.)
That description of the economics was made in detail on the internet by both me and many others in 2002-2004, before the bubble burst. Repeatedly the anti (illegal) immigrant voices agreed that that would happen and that they were willing to go into both recession and inflation if that is what resulted from enforcing the law.
BTW If we don't think big government can solve healthcare and other issues, what makes us think big gubmint can solve immigration?
Posted by: spintreebob | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 03:45 PM
Roseanne Pulido is not good for the ILGOP and hurts national trends. There is a great deal of bad intent and innaccurate information.
If Pulido is successful she will elect Barack Obama who will be the most liberal President we ever had.
Posted by: Anne M Wozniak | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 06:34 PM
Dear Anne,
If the information is inacurate, why don't you tell us the truth?
Now let's hear from some other Republicans...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news...=1&;page=1
My Favorite....
It’s your vote. You can do with it what you want. Just please don’t think you are voting from any “principle” other than “My Party right or wrong”.
Posted by: Rosanna Pulido | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 06:52 PM
Another GREAT point from Will88
“The point is that the GOP needs to use the ideals of independence, self reliance, and hard work to court them.
That’s where they went wrong. The GOP NEVER needed to pander to Hispanics. Reagan won 41% of the Hispanic vote, better than W twenty years later despite all W’s pandering. The GOP simply needed to continue appealing to Hispanics as they appealed to all other groups: with basic conservative principles best put forth by Reagan.
When the GOP started pandering, it backfired and we have lost Hispanics, NOT because many opposed amnesty, but because W’s and McCain’s amnesty push stirred up an internal fight that should never have taken place, and gave the pro-amnesty types ammunition to demonize conservatives and Republicans in general.
Pandering to groups based on race and ethnicity is Dem. tactic, and the second Republicans started down that road it cost far more than it gained.
Posted by: Rosanna Pulido | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 06:54 PM
I used to live in Joliet years ago as well as Aurora man was I surprised when I went back a little while ago the neighborhood I lived in were trashed the fine houses looked like dumps and the park I used to play in was nothing but a dump with Mexicans selling drugs and what ever else. My cousin who moved to Oswego said that you could not drive through these places at night you would be shot or beat to death by the mexicans. It is a shame that these cities have gone to the Dogs
Posted by: Skipfoss | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 07:06 PM
I would expect nothing less from McCain. Thank you Rosanna for letting us know what is going on. I would not have been able to get into the meeting. We need people like you to lead and let us know the dark sides. The ILGOP was damaged a long time ago and it is partly because of these doings. Instead of Republicans reforming government, government reformed the GOP in the image of liberal Marxists. Thanks for the news and doing the job I am not always able to do while living my life as a legal American.
Posted by: Jim | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 07:53 PM
Michelle Malkin...
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/19/ins...hispanics/
Posted by: | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 08:50 PM
Rosanna must be frustrated. The next president will be either McCain, author of the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill, or Obama, who supports the same type of policy. In short, no matter who wins, she loses.
Posted by: | Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 11:43 PM
McCain is not a Republican nor a conservative. He is a liar instead.
After he got his butt kicked why impailing himself along with Bush and their gang of 14 pushing amnesty, he retreated to "We must secure the borders first, and then give them amnesty. He then went on to say that he predicted that my 2013 the borders would be secured (a lie naturally, but that is not the point). The point is that his MATH is not very good. He has now returned to pushing amnesty and he says he would do it as soon as he got elected. Well, if he told us at half way through the primary (to save his sinking numbers) that he wanted secure borders FIRST, and if the borders will not be secured until 20113, THEN how can say that he will again pursue his failed amnesty legislation immediately upon getting elected. Patriots, conservatives and some Republicans will be forced to fight our own party for the next 8 years in addition to fighting the liberals and most Democrats, as we have done for the last eight years with Bush. Why wait? Start fighting the slimmy dummy of the elitists, John McCain immediately. Send the message to the ilk of Mike Duncan (Chairman of the RNC), the fundraising - branding buffon without conservative values packing and all the other servants of the elitists. Wake up and raise above the paralysis from the fear mongering of the Bush administration that has cost us the Senate, the House, much personal freedom and soon the Presidency. We need to get rid of the elitists and regroup to fight another day, starting with the 2010 campaign. "Anyone but McCain!" - but do support conservative downticket Republican candidates - Those candidates have been betrayed by the GOP leadership as much as we have as Party members.
Posted by: Tony | Friday, June 20, 2008 at 03:09 AM
I watched Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., hard at work two months ago on C-Span, showing on his charts how seven million U.S. citizens are presently unemployed. He also showed how presently there are only four million jobs available in the United States.
How can Democrats push for the amnesty of 20 million illegal immigrants, while providing us with the best evidence against it?
Illegal immigrants are the biggest contributors to unemployment in the United States, and they are forcing many U.S. citizens into early retirement. Two illegal immigrants are working for the price of one American and with no employee benefits. They help the employer in the present and future. My school taxes have doubled because of the illegal immigrants’ many, many children in our public schools.
While our troops are bravely fighting for freedom in the Middle East, at home it appears freedom is free for illegal immigrants as they invade our nation.
The Democrats advocating for amnesty are saying that citizenship for illegal immigrants will cost them each a $5,000 fee. In reality, what these politicians are saying is that the lives of the brave heroes we lost in this war on terror are each only worth $5,000.
In Pennsylvania we have veterans living underneath bridges and employed illegal immigrants living in the rental properties.
How can our government propose to give amnesty to 20 million low-wage-earning illegal immigrants, all of whom will then be eligible for free government welfare programs, when it cannot help just a few hundred thousand veterans, many of whom just need proper medical care or are truly homeless or unemployed?
In Pennsylvania we have veterans living underneath bridges and employed illegal immigrants living in the rental properties.
p.s. as a Roman Catholic for 50 years I am one of many who will no longer pay church dues to support all these illegal’s, please join us.
Posted by: Pat Smith | Friday, June 20, 2008 at 05:48 AM
After reading the comments on this posting there is one thing that comes through loud and clear - assuming McCain continues to carry the water for the National GOP, the need to work harder for candidates like Steve Sauerberg becomes more evident.
I am not suggesting that conservatives need to opt out of the election for the office of President but I am saying that without a continued strong group of Republicans in the Senate, only liberal supreme court and federal judges will be installed.
There are currently only two supreme court judges who were appointed by a Democrat President but how many liberal supreme court judges do we have? How many federal liberal judges have been appointed? Why do we have gay marriage occurring in CA? You can thank the federal judges. Why are state attempts to control the flood of illegal aliens being thwarted by federal judges? You can thank the federal judges.
It is disappointing to me that I do not hear more from Illinois conservatives relative to the candidacy of Saurberg. All I hear from conservatives is that Durbin can't be beat and YES with an attitude like that he is guaranteed to win.
I suggest conservatives quit looking for the bad in McCain (we already know) and start working very hard to have conservatives elected to the House and the Senate.
We will not win these battles in the media - we can only win these battles with shoe leather.
Posted by: Evert | Friday, June 20, 2008 at 08:37 AM
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